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The Pentagon said on Tuesday it is moving ahead with plans to end the U.S. military's ban on allowing women to serve in submarines.
U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates sent a letter to lawmakers notifying them of the decision by the Navy, which could see the first women on nuclear submarines next year.
"This is fundamentally a Navy initiative, which they recently briefed to the secretary of defense. (Gates) supports it and he notified Congress of the Navy's plans," Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell said.
Women account for about 15 percent of the more than 336,000 members of the U.S. Navy and can serve on its surface ships. But critics have argued that submarines are different, pointing to cramped quarters where some crews share beds in shifts -- a practice known as "hot bunking."
A likely scenario would see female officers becoming the first to join crews on the Navy's fleet of 71 submarines, since officers have separate accommodations, a U.S. defense official said.
Congress has 30 days to provide its official comment on the Navy's decision.
Nancy Duff Campbell, an advocate for expanding the role of women in the U.S. armed forces, applauded the decision and said she did not expect any opposition from lawmakers.
"This is something that has a lot of support (within the military) and the Navy has a serious plan" to carefully integrate submarine personnel, she said.
Allowing women on submarines would be another step forward in expanding the role of women in the U.S. military. In 2008, a woman was promoted to the rank of four-star general for the first time.
Testifying in the Senate on Tuesday, Army General George Casey said he thought it was time to re-examine the policy that places restrictions on women in combat roles.
"We don't have an active effort going on, but I think it's time," Casey said.
Women are still barred from traditional frontline combat roles in the U.S. armed forces. But female soldiers often run the same risks as men in Iraq and Afghanistan, where bombings and other insurgent attacks can happen almost anywhere.
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You know what's odd about this. That I can't be hired as a Nanny because I'm a man. Also certain other career choices that women have I can't get a job in.
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You know what's odd about this. That I can't be hired as a Nanny because I'm a man. Also certain other career choices that women have I can't get a job in.
That's equal opportunity for you. Because you're white you can't get these jobs and because you're a man you can't get these other jobs. Then there's the "rights" in each of the jobs you CAN get.
What I disapprove of this move of the Navy is that they're jumping straight into integrated, not all male and female.
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That's equal opportunity for you. Because you're white you can't get these jobs and because you're a man you can't get these other jobs. Then there's the "rights" in each of the jobs you CAN get.
What I disapprove of this move of the Navy is that they're jumping straight into integrated, not all male and female.
Exactly my point. They talk about when taking a job picking the right person for the job, but really they are still bias. So this illusion that we're being "fair" and "equal" is a complete farce. Women can be fire fighters, soldiers, professional body-builders, and undertake many careers that were traditionally the role taken by men. So why can't a man be a nanny, a caregiver, a stay at home Dad, or even dare I say it a lamas coach. If women have the rights to every and all jobs, why can't men have those same rights? Shouldn't it be about being fair and picking the right person for the job?
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